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http://www.clamxav.com/
ahmadazwa
"Back in the days before OS X, the number of viruses which attacked Macintosh users totalled somewhere between about 60 and 80. Today, the number of viruses actively attacking OS X users is...NONE!"

So, ClamXAV is pointless actually. OS 9 and it's previous iterations pernah diserang virus, tapi OS X (OS 10) tiada virus walau satu pun. Dan OS X bebas dari virus setakat ini hampir 6 tahun. Yang ada cuma "proof-of-concept". Ia tidak boleh menjejaskan OS tanpa password anda.

Bagi sesiapa yang paranoid, download lah. Tapi for most users I recommend tak perlu lah install sebab memang lumrah anti-virus ni memberatkan dan boleh menjejas kestabilan OS. Kalau Windows memang perlu, tapi OS X? Setakat ni takde threat lagi. So, there isn't much point of installing this thing.
neuroquila
yeah...agree...aku siap ade simpan virus and try bukak...lg satu don't worry laa...mostly virus on .exe format...so mac is freedom from virus...trust me my friend...
C-Fu
ko tak penah gi skolah blaja english ke?


mac antivirus BUKAN UNTUK MAC. mac antivirus cam norton etc. digunakan atas tujuan untuk check fail2 pc yang melalui mac, samada yang disimpan dalam mac, atau yang melalui mac (yang berfungsi sebagai proksi, ape2 jenis proksi).
xtreme_paranoid
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ko tak penah gi skolah blaja english ke?
mac antivirus BUKAN UNTUK MAC. mac antivirus cam norton etc. digunakan atas tujuan untuk check fail2 pc yang melalui mac, samada yang disimpan dalam mac, atau yang melalui mac (yang berfungsi sebagai proksi, ape2 jenis proksi).


hurm.. dry.gif
rilek ar..
setiap org mmg akan wat kesilapan..

ahmadazwa
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ko tak penah gi skolah blaja english ke?
mac antivirus BUKAN UNTUK MAC. mac antivirus cam norton etc. digunakan atas tujuan untuk check fail2 pc yang melalui mac, samada yang disimpan dalam mac, atau yang melalui mac (yang berfungsi sebagai proksi, ape2 jenis proksi).


I really dislike your rude response to 'neuroquila', quote on quote "ko tak penah gi skolah blaja english ke?". There is no need for such insults. It does not portray you as a good Muslim at all. Have you forgotten this:

"Allah tidak menyukai kelantangan ucapan yang jahat, kecuali orang yang dizalimi; Allah adalah Mendengar, Mengetahui." - 4:148.

Plus, we are not talking about Norton here, we are talking about ClamXav. Yes, the main purpose for most of the 'mac anti-virus' out there is to prevent distributing Windows viruses to other Windows users. Since it does not work on Macs, we may not realise that we are spreading it. However, it is also needed in situations where a Mac user needs to run Mac OS 9 in the Classic environment for some older applications. This exposes them to OS 9 viruses, thus the purpose of ClamXav.

But why should we - the mac users - care about the Windows users? Why do we need to fork out some money to buy a commercial anti-virus just so that Windows users can be safe? Why do we need to jeopardise the stability if our OS by installing an unnecessary anti-virus just so that Windows users can benefit from it? Let them protect themselves from viruses that plague the Windows world. They've chosen that platform, so it is up to them to maintain it, not us.

Anyway, enough rant. I hope C-Fu dimasa hadapan akan merendahkan diri dalam responses anda dan memperbetulkan orang lain tanpa kelantangan dalam ucapan. There's no need for insults.
C-Fu
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There is no need for such insults. It does not portray you as a good Muslim at all.
That is correct.

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But why should we - the mac users - care about the Windows users? Why do we need to fork out some money to buy a commercial anti-virus just so that Windows users can be safe?


You sir have to go out more. Or ask a few sysadmins (good ones btw), experience this thing called lots of pcs in a network phenomenon.

oh and english, in putera, is like kambing in klcc.
ahmades
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But why should we - the mac users - care about the Windows users? Why do we need to fork out some money to buy a commercial anti-virus just so that Windows users can be safe? Why do we need to jeopardise the stability if our OS by installing an unnecessary anti-virus just so that Windows users can benefit from it? Let them protect themselves from viruses that plague the Windows world. They've chosen that platform, so it is up to them to maintain it, not us.


Seperti C-Fu kata, benda nih perlu berlaku disebabkan kehadiran rangkaian yang lebih mementingkan sekuriti. Kalau awak bercakap tentang pengguna end-user, memang betul "punya pasallah untuk pengguna Windown nak maintain camner".

Tapi bila menyebut mengenai networking, berlambak menggunakan Linux instead of mac, so camner? Takkan nak block mac user dari access linux server? As well as Linux doesn't contain any viruses on their platform.

Lepasnih saya minta awak berpandangan lebih jauh sebelum bercakap seperti orang memilih bulu.

TAMBAHAN :-

Pernah awak terfikir kenapa virus ini wujud terlalu banyak di atas platform Windows? Dan terlalu jarang di atas platform Mac, Linux,Unix bla bla bla bla? Sebab kalau dilihat dari segi pengguna platform, berlambak end-user menggunakan Windows. So orang yang nak menghasilkan virus (kalau saya) pun akan memilih windows untuk dirosakkan sebab impak yang besar. Menghasilkan kerosakkan berskala besar dan memuaskan pencipta virus berkenaan.

Kalau diorang nak cipta atas MAC atau Linux atau bla bla bla bla bla bla pon boleh sangat, as well as diorang pon boleh hasilkan script untuk pecah masuk sistem server tak kira mana-mana platform. Inikan pulak MAC. Tapi disebabkan Mac tak ramai yang guna didunia ini maka kalau cipta virus pon membuang masa dan tenaga aja.
thalz142
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oh and english, in putera, is like kambing in klcc.


garang gak mamat neh
C-Fu
kalo ako buat lawak dikatakan garang kan,

ako rase la bile ako cakap KO SAMDOL atau KO BANGANG mesti thalz142 gelak siot

hish seram
ahmadazwa
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Tapi bila menyebut mengenai networking, berlambak menggunakan Linux instead of mac, so camner? Takkan nak block mac user dari access linux server?
I don't quite understand the above statement. Why would you want to block mac users from linux server again?

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As well as Linux doesn't contain any viruses on their platform.

They are Linux viruses, refer here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_computer_viruses

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Pernah awak terfikir kenapa virus ini wujud terlalu banyak di atas platform Windows? Dan terlalu jarang di atas platform Mac, Linux,Unix bla bla bla bla? Sebab kalau dilihat dari segi pengguna platform, berlambak end-user menggunakan Windows. So orang yang nak menghasilkan virus (kalau saya) pun akan memilih windows untuk dirosakkan sebab impak yang besar. Menghasilkan kerosakkan berskala besar dan memuaskan pencipta virus berkenaan.

Kalau diorang nak cipta atas MAC atau Linux atau bla bla bla bla bla bla pon boleh sangat, as well as diorang pon boleh hasilkan script untuk pecah masuk sistem server tak kira mana-mana platform. Inikan pulak MAC. Tapi disebabkan Mac tak ramai yang guna didunia ini maka kalau cipta virus pon membuang masa dan tenaga aja.

This is the 'standard' answer from Windows users to justify why there aren't any viruses for the mac. They are baffled by the thought that viruses don't exist on the mac, and make up excuses such as the above.

Truth is, OS X is a strong UNIX based operating system. It is build with security in mind. Let me ask you this: Mac users like to gloat about how Macs don't have viruses. So, wouldn't it be satisfying for a ha˘Ker to create a virus and destroy the claims of Mac fanatics about OS X being virus free? Dalam bahasa melayunya, jikalau saya suka membanggakan OS X sebegai OS tanpa virus, bukankah seorang penggodam itu boleh mendapat kepuasan teragung jika dia berjaya memusnahkan harapan dan kebanggan warga Macintosh dengan mencipta virus untuknya?

The truth is, all para penggodam / virus makers out there are trying hard to make a virus for the Mac, but without success. Windows users are waiting for the day when they can finally relish on the Mac users and gloat that OS X is not virus free too.

So please... take your FUD with you.
ahmades
Yeah...(a very, maybe the-big-fan-club) freak mac user comment. Awak nih tak tahu ke yang arkitektur core MAC yang dibangga-bangga tu mengandungi asas component open-source? Walaupun tak diserang dalam bentuk virus, cukuplah dalam bentuk malware script. But enough saying that, because I think you dont know the programming ethicals, as well as you only know how to use and not know how hard to create an application free-of-bug!.

Samalah seperti warga MAC yang pernah kata camni :-

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Kenapa Apple pakai Intel Core? Nanti mac mesti terdedah dengan virus/malware...
Peh...

BTW :

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I don't quite understand the above statement. Why would you want to block mac users from linux server again?


Inilah yang dipanggil network phenomenon. Kalau tak faham mungkin awak boleh search dalam wikipedia.

Untuk pengetahuan anda dan other MAC freak, software didalam dunia ini tak ada yang prefect even MAC sekalipun. Aku masih ingat lagi sewaktu MAC OS X dilancarkan terlalu banyak security vulnerabilities yang boleh dimanafaatkan. This also apply to Windows, Linux or other operating system. Takder yang prefect.

Awak bercakap sebagai seorang end-user, aku bercakap sebagai seorang sysadmin yang perlu-perlu sangat memanafaatkan kelebihan tak kira mana-mana OS untuk keselamatan dalam rangkaian.

Again, tolong berpandangan jauh sebelum nak kata apa-apa. Itu lebih baik dari menulis sesuatu yang lebih kepada "perkauman" teknologi. Kalau awak salah seorang developer MAC takpa la jugak...hehehe
C-Fu
how many articles do we need to point out on how goddamn easy it is for hakkers to actually hak an OSX box for people to finally realise the obvious?

sheeeeeeeesh.

even if you want to tegakkan benang yang basah, stop living in denial mate. google for OSX in 30 mins or whatever. google for unreleased osx exploits for cash.
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