English Forum Special Rules
This special forums is dedicated for those who wish to improve their English through forum communications.
You can discuss anything (ICT or not) in here but you MUST write in English. Don't be afraid of errors, cause someone might help you with it.
Remember:
1. Everyone MUST use proper English. Rojak is unacceptable unless user really have no idea with the words in English.
2. Any denunciation, insulting, churlish and offensive words are not allowed
3. No unnecessary Malay words
4. No unnecessary sms or short forms words
5. No cut & paste promotional material!
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How To Improve Your English?, Share your tips here |
Jun 17 2007, 10:14 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() Grup: Learning Kiriman: 29 Penyertaan: 5-January 07 Ahli ke- 22,552 |
I guess many of us improved our English in many ways, either English for writing, or just for day to day conversations.
Some of you may have received formal trainings, a few of you may have selftaught yourselves, there's some who were forced to learn it, or for some; simply by using... Any tips, guys and gals? Share with us, I would like to learn too! |
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Jun 17 2007, 11:23 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 2,281 Penyertaan: 1-October 04 Dari: Batu Berendam,Kuala Lumpur Ahli ke- 2,953 |
You can improve your knowledge and ability to use the English language! Some common ways people do this are :
1. Be alert. Keep your ears and eyes open, listening to how people use the language, and reading other people's work critically. 2. Read more. Read from business magazines, international newspapers, other people's annual reports and letters. It is also a good idea to spend some time reading fiction, as this can provide a vital freshness to your language use and increase your vocabulary. Other light reading may include biographies of famous people, especially statesmen, whose business it is to be very correct with language. 3. Listen to the radio on a walkman, in the car, or while relaxing at home. Radio has the advantage over TV in that it relies solely on words, whereas on TV, it is often poorly written and the visuals do most of the talking. 4. Take some time to study an article from a magazine or newspaper. Analyse how the sentences are constructed, the choice of the words that are used and the organisation of the data. Write out sentences or phrases that you find particularly powerful. 5. Buy a workbook on writing and put one hour or so aside each week to do a number of exercises. There are many good books on the market. 6. Take some time to learn how to use a dictionary, a thesaurus, a reference book and a grammar book. I recommend Practical English Usage by Michael Swan (Oxford) as one of the simplest grammar references to use. 7. If you look up a word in a dictionary, you may like to write it out with its meaning to aid memory. Some people keep a notebook of new words : this can be very effective. -------------------- ~ Mari kita bertukar-tukar kejahilan sesama sendiri ® ~
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Jun 17 2007, 12:37 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 298 Penyertaan: 7-January 05 Ahli ke- 5,051 |
ouh, sorry for the malay post. Didn't see that rules up there..
so like i said, listen to english song, try to make up the lyrics. start with slow songs then look for a faster one and then go for hip hop or rap. train your listening skills. english isn't only about talking but also involves listening. Kiriman ini telah diubahsuai oleh speedfinger: Jun 17 2007, 02:04 PM -------------------- "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." (Evan Hardin)
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Jun 17 2007, 01:12 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 227 Penyertaan: 25-February 07 Dari: the cupboard under the stairs Ahli ke- 25,149 |
In my humble opinion: English is a very difficult language to learn because it is made from words of many different languages. My suggestions: See if you can find an ESL class (English as a second language) /an English class (you will need to give some effort and money in order to register an English class..) .
Then I would suggest that you spend as much time as possible using English. Read the daily English newspaper.., as for this one I suggest you the New Strait Times instead of The Star.. Next, listen to radio/television programs in English. Listening to the radio is a very good idea. To dismiss TV is wrong because of course people speak English on TV. It's often not standard BBC English (now there's a channel available from Astro..)but it contains slang and colloquialisms that you need to know in order to communicate with people.Of course, you have to take some time to learn about it.there's no need to be rush. Find another person who is trying to learn English-but not one who speaks your native language, could be Spanish, French,or even English and so on, and talk to him/her in English. If you need to write something, have an English speaking person check it for you. Write English as much as possible before using internet shortcuts. Examples: English is a proper noun and is always capitalized. Spell out you rather than U. Advice is the same for plural and single Spell out because, rather than cos mostly ..... Read English books and magazines and Don't use the internet messages or chat in order to improve or learn English. The English used there is often inaccurate. the most important step to be taken is, you practise,practise,practise and practise..because practise makes perfect... -------------------- She blamed me for talking with an accent , for strumming up and down my acoustic strings and popping some pop corns in front of a new TV show... I don't get to watch O anymore though!
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Jun 18 2007, 12:53 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 366 Penyertaan: 23-March 07 Dari: Grand Line Ahli ke- 26,939 |
my opinion..read kasyfi thread and abedah posts...hehheheh
-------------------- i remember what i saw , i forget what i said , but i understand what i do q^^p
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Jun 18 2007, 12:57 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 1,595 Penyertaan: 8-September 06 Ahli ke- 19,767 |
Just playing games to improve cause many games in English . . . Kekekew . . .
-------------------- Mari join perigiduit, malas dapat rajin lagi a dapat.
http://www.perigiduit.com/?ref=square99 http://www.perigiduit.com/?ref=fadzili85 http://www.perigiduit.com/?ref=goodshoes91 |
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Jun 18 2007, 01:08 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 133 Penyertaan: 8-February 07 Dari: pada Ahli ke- 24,075 |
try to speak english instead of malay in your daily life....
-------------------- Katakan 'TIDAK!'....kamu tidak akan melakukan seks selagi belum mempunyai ikatan yang sah..
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Jun 18 2007, 10:04 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 318 Penyertaan: 4-June 04 Ahli ke- 775 |
errr... marrying an English or American girl/guy??? and more you will get citizenship or at least a "permanent residence" of her/his country. I prefer my idea cause its more practical bwahahahhahahah
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Jun 18 2007, 11:33 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() Grup: Learning Kiriman: 29 Penyertaan: 5-January 07 Ahli ke- 22,552 |
Thank you for your suggestions.
Rads78, I really like the idea of marrying someone who speaks English, that sounds fun and interesting, heheh. Or kasyfi's suggestions finding another person trying to learn English too. And gamerlife's way of learning by playing games. There seems to be many ways at learning the language but I guess the most important thing is to know first, which way, or ways, that we'd really want to stick to, doesn't it? The main thing is, it catches our interest. So then we'd wouldn't be bored and eventually gave up after a while. But the hardest thing in English I think is conversing. When you talk, the ideas must be there. It's spontaneous. Otherwise, you'd end up as - speechless... lol |
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Jun 18 2007, 07:03 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 2,281 Penyertaan: 1-October 04 Dari: Batu Berendam,Kuala Lumpur Ahli ke- 2,953 |
mmmm... maryying English woman.. it just good idea..
everyday talks to your wife with English .. Darling, could you please make some coffe ? ;lol; -------------------- ~ Mari kita bertukar-tukar kejahilan sesama sendiri ® ~
http://putiv.wordpress.com/ |
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Jun 20 2007, 12:30 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 418 Penyertaan: 21-October 06 Ahli ke- 20,927 |
Marrying foreign women from US/UK can improve your english?
How about teenager that want to improve their english? marrying with foreign women/men will solve the problem? It is not that hard actually. As you can see on internet, most of the information in English. There is many dictionary online, and we even have Malay to English dictionary online at www.karyanet.com.my As for speaking and writing, there is no other effective way other than you practicing it in real life. I polish my english skill with my interest for computer games, games genre like RPG with long text to read and audio in english really challenge me to understand it. And playing online games on international server force you to communicate in english. Bottom line, its all down to your interest and effort to improve yourself, no one can help you if you didn't help yourself to improve your english. Just my 2 cents... -------------------- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
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Jun 20 2007, 02:16 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 1,038 Penyertaan: 11-April 04 Dari: I live to cook... note that! Ahli ke- 18 |
The hardest language to master in this world is arabic and french... and the easiest is Malay... being said in some research...
To improve your level of english isn't a simple task... you need to be alert and cautious... your pronunciation and grammar is crucial... because english is about understanding... if people cant understand what you are trying to say or deliver... being the person listening have a good mastery of english, thats mean you didn't meet the level of satisfactory yet... 1. Read more 2. Speak more 3. Understand more -------------------- World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade :: PC
Hanazakari no Kimi Tachi :: Jdorama I'll be the bad guy, if that what i should do for a better community Sampah |
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Jun 20 2007, 06:01 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Baru Grup: Learning Kiriman: 14 Penyertaan: 4-August 04 Dari: kuala Lumpur Ahli ke- 1,569 |
1.dun shy.
2.must have confident. |
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Jun 28 2007, 06:00 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli Baru Grup: Learning Kiriman: 13 Penyertaan: 12-February 06 Ahli ke- 14,581 |
Read smthing in english like magazines,newspaper.......it will help you a lot |
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Jun 28 2007, 10:38 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() Grup: Learning Kiriman: 29 Penyertaan: 10-June 07 Dari: Malaysia Ahli ke- 31,147 |
my opinion..
write in english.. 1-message 2-diary 3-note 4-short story or novelle if you are the writer 5-ect (oh..i also weak in english..huhu) |
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Jun 28 2007, 04:56 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 878 Penyertaan: 5-July 04 Dari: Biasanya depan PC dlm umah kat Cyberjaya Ahli ke- 1,068 |
effective ways:
INPUT: read: scanlated manga, comics, magazines, newspapers. listen: english music, watch english TV shows [discovery channels, national geographic...better if u turn off the subtitles, so u would use the dictionary instead], stand up comedy, tv3 nightline [or anyother english news.] OUTPUT: write: post on the internet, emails, forums, letter to yourself [read after 5 years...very funny], essays, diaries. or poem if you're the emo type lulz. speak: don't mind broken, just make sure you put effort to fix it. speak while making orders at restaurants [McD, KFC, etc], small talk with cute waitresses, with your friend, play vocab games, public speaking. Kiriman ini telah diubahsuai oleh Sinful: Jun 28 2007, 07:34 PM -------------------- Berharap Kau Kembali.
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Jun 28 2007, 05:33 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 43 Penyertaan: 21-June 07 Ahli ke- 31,784 |
want the fast way to converse in english? watch a movie, listen to songs and whatnot, and say it again. If songs, obtain the lyrics (because you may make mistakes if writing it on your own, and end up with gibberish), and if from a movie, use only english subtitles. DO NOT use malay subtitiles.
Say those dialogues/lyrics out loud. That's he way to hone your conversation skill... at least for me it worked. To write in english gracefully, speak fluently. To speak fluently, talk. Me? I was bad in english. Then I joined my school's debate team. Improved a lot. hehe. |
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Jun 29 2007, 03:56 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 2,420 Penyertaan: 21-May 06 Dari: Under the bridge... Ahli ke- 16,976 |
The best way to improve your English is go to England, US or Australia and live/work/study there for a couple of years.
-------------------- TIME IS RELATIVE, IMAGINATION IS INFINITE (www.senibinagame.com)
Mari jimatkan penggunaan petrol & diesel dengan Mygreenoil! Hubungi saya untuk keterangan lanjut. |
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Jun 29 2007, 06:53 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 1,030 Penyertaan: 25-July 05 Dari: Bayan Lepas FIZ<--->Kelate Ahli ke- 9,262 |
QUOTE(LanoG @ Jun 29 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]516924[/snapback] The best way to improve your English is go to England, US or Australia and live/work/study there for a couple of years. the easiest way is...try to speak in english "everyday"..........no need to go to west side...high cost ooo!!! -------------------- Dream what you dare to dream, Go where you want to go, Be what you want to be, You can if you believe you can, Believe in yourself and other's will too..
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Jun 29 2007, 08:45 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 227 Penyertaan: 25-February 07 Dari: the cupboard under the stairs Ahli ke- 25,149 |
QUOTE(mangisz_tech @ Jun 29 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]517093[/snapback] the easiest way is...try to speak in english "everyday"..........no need to go to west side...high cost ooo!!! exactly... as long as there is someone to comunicate to ...then, there will be no problem to improve your language skills.. -------------------- She blamed me for talking with an accent , for strumming up and down my acoustic strings and popping some pop corns in front of a new TV show... I don't get to watch O anymore though!
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Jun 29 2007, 08:56 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 227 Penyertaan: 25-February 07 Dari: the cupboard under the stairs Ahli ke- 25,149 |
QUOTE(Sinful @ Jun 28 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]516141[/snapback] effective ways: INPUT: read: scanlated manga, comics, magazines, newspapers. listen: english music, watch english TV shows [discovery channels, national geographic...better if u turn off the subtitles, so u would use the dictionary instead], stand up comedy, tv3 nightline [or anyother english news.] OUTPUT: write: post on the internet, emails, forums, letter to yourself [read after 5 years...very funny], essays, diaries. or poem if you're the emo type lulz. speak: don't mind broken, just make sure you put effort to fix it. speak while making orders at restaurants [McD, KFC, etc], small talk with cute waitresses, with your friend, play vocab games, public speaking. broken??? I think that's definitely not a good idea.. Language is going to be far more beautiful if you use it correctly and speak using correct pronounciation and grammar.. Broken is not suggested.. -------------------- She blamed me for talking with an accent , for strumming up and down my acoustic strings and popping some pop corns in front of a new TV show... I don't get to watch O anymore though!
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Jul 21 2007, 09:58 PM
Kiriman
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Ahli ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 73 Penyertaan: 23-January 07 Ahli ke- 23,231 |
for me...nowadays almost everybody KNOW/UNDERTSAND english but the MAIN PROBLEM is to TALK in english, many our graduate have a problem in SPEAKING in english while on the interview, so if u just know english but cannot talk in english, it's no point..so don't be shy, start from now try speaking in english when possible, let it be broken, the most important thing is, so that you can speak in english without constructing the words first hehe, let it flow like a river.....hu.........hu............
-------------------- "EdUcAtIoN Is wHaT ReMaInS AfTeR OnE HaS FoRgOtTeN EvErYtHiNg hE LeArNeD In sChOoL." AlBeRt eInStEiN
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Jul 22 2007, 12:11 AM
Kiriman
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Ahli Rajin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Grup: Members Kiriman: 2,281 Penyertaan: 1-October 04 Dari: Batu Berendam,Kuala Lumpur Ahli ke- 2,953 |
do you agree the student have to be train to speak English in 6 years old ?
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