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Sound Onboard Vs Sound Card Sound Blaster
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post Apr 25 2008, 11:14 AM
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skrg Sound Onboard dah semakin power dgn HD(High Definition) Audio....dah nk sama mcm Sound Blaster punye card....
So Onboard Sound dah cukup ker atau perlukan Sound Blaster punye Card untuk sound yang lagi best?!!!
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post Apr 25 2008, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(mon678 @ Apr 25 2008, 11:14 AM) *
skrg Sound Onboard dah semakin power dgn HD(High Definition) Audio....dah nk sama mcm Sound Blaster punye card....
So Onboard Sound dah cukup ker atau perlukan Sound Blaster punye Card untuk sound yang lagi best?!!!
unsure.gif sila beri pendapat korang?!!!


Bg aku, built-in skang nyer board dah ckup bgus da..yg penting speaker ko..baper watt leh pergi..
dan teknology woofer dier..

klu aku ak heran sgt la..pkai monitor speaker pon dah best..asalkan bunyik keta tak bunyik jentolak.. laugh.gif
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post Apr 25 2008, 03:10 PM
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based on aku punya xperient....onboard soundcard sekarang dah bagus...tapi kalau compare dengan pci cth dari m-audio / creative lab bagus jenis pci.....cth sekarang aku pakai creative lab audigy ZS 2...sound dia memang more crisp compare dengan onboard...satu lagi pci soundcard support ASIO penting kalau buat realtime multitrack audio recording sebab dia punya latency very low...sehingga 2ms...satu lagi midi font ..selalunya midi font dari jenis creativelab / m-audio more realistic...kebanyakkan onboard tak support digital in/out...tapi kalau jenis pci terutama creativelab/m-audio support digital in/out...sound more clean ..but speaker pun kena support digital jugaklah...BUT depend pada kita kalau kita just dengar mp3, CD or even tengok movie onboard sound card more than enough...


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post Apr 25 2008, 03:14 PM
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bagi aku yg external lagi bagus.dulu aku beli mobo asus ni...sound buit in dia pun ok...tetiba aku ada bajet lebih...so,...aku beli soundblaster xtreme gamer sound card.masa tu mahal,...rm430.tapi skang dah rm290+ jer.beza nya sound kad luar ni ialah....memang terlalu jauh beza ngan built in walaupun yg ori mobo run 24bit.
***aku pakai amp dan speaker home theater.memang aku dapat rasakan perbezaannya.
woofer dan speaker keliling memang dapat power yg sebenar jika sound card power.

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post Apr 25 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(phenom @ Apr 25 2008, 03:14 PM) *
bagi aku yg external lagi bagus.dulu aku beli mobo asus ni...sound buit in dia pun ok...tetiba aku ada bajet lebih...so,...aku beli soundblaster xtreme gamer sound card.masa tu mahal,...rm430.tapi skang dah rm290+ jer.beza nya sound kad luar ni ialah....memang terlalu jauh beza ngan built in walaupun yg ori mobo run 24bit.
***aku pakai amp dan speaker home theater.memang aku dapat rasakan perbezaannya.
woofer dan speaker keliling memang dapat power yg sebenar jika sound card power.

yup aku setuju..walaupun onboard sound dah power n support 7.1 tapi memang ketara kalo dah tukar guna sound card..lebih2 lagi guna creative x-fi ditambh dgn speaker yg sama taraf dgn nyer..ko akan dapat rasa perbezaan bunyi dier..


**tapi skrg org dah boikot creative.. blush.gif


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post Apr 25 2008, 09:44 PM
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salam,

onboard sound mmg canggih dh skrg ni tp jgn tertipu dgn marketing.. ada byk jenis audio codec kat luar tu dan kualiti dia tak sama. utk perbandingan bole baca kat http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/520

2 audio codec yg popular skrg ni ialah Analog Devices/Soundmax dan Realtek/ALC .


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post Apr 25 2008, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(craxors @ Apr 25 2008, 04:42 PM) *
yup aku setuju..walaupun onboard sound dah power n support 7.1 tapi memang ketara kalo dah tukar guna sound card..lebih2 lagi guna creative x-fi ditambh dgn speaker yg sama taraf dgn nyer..ko akan dapat rasa perbezaan bunyi dier..


**tapi skrg org dah boikot creative.. blush.gif

biarlah org boikot creative pun...yg pastinya aku skang tengah pakai sound card tu dan masih lagi berpuas hati.


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post Apr 26 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(phenom @ Apr 25 2008, 09:49 PM) *
biarlah org boikot creative pun...yg pastinya aku skang tengah pakai sound card tu dan masih lagi berpuas hati.

nape boikot creative?creative brg dutch ker?aku tak tau pun????!!!!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif
lagi satu....ade org ckp kalau gune sound card...mengurangkan penggunaan tenaga CPU untuk proses sound...btul ker? unsure.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(mon678 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:32 AM) *
nape boikot creative?creative brg dutch ker?aku tak tau pun????!!!!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif
lagi satu....ade org ckp kalau gune sound card...mengurangkan penggunaan tenaga CPU untuk proses sound...btul ker? unsure.gif

betul tu...lagi satu...dia tx akan pakai banyak memori.sama gak cam gc.


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post Apr 27 2008, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(mon678 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:32 AM) *
nape boikot creative?creative brg dutch ker?aku tak tau pun????!!!!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif
lagi satu....ade org ckp kalau gune sound card...mengurangkan penggunaan tenaga CPU untuk proses sound...btul ker? unsure.gif

bkn pasal dutch.tp ada krisis2 dgn creative ni.pnjg gak cita pasal creative.tp paling kritikal,berkaitan dgn driver vista.kalau ko aktif baca kt forum2 international ko tau ar.aku pakai sound card creative gk,da lama beli.tp kalau nk beli baru,mmg xbeli brand creative dah la.da bnyk pilihan skang kt malaysia, asus,auzentech,audiotrak dll.

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post Apr 27 2008, 02:27 PM
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nape boikot creative?creative brg dutch ker?aku tak tau pun????!!!!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif

ye ke...??? I don't think. soo setahu aku creative lab ni based kat singapore co founder dia Sim Wong Hoo check HERE

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ade org ckp kalau gune sound card...mengurangkan penggunaan tenaga CPU untuk proses sound...btul ker?

Yap..that's why aku prefer pci based compare to onboard....cth macam GC which one better on board atau pci/agp/pci-e based... normally yang pci ni....dia process sound di soundcard....tu sebab kalau musician yan buat recording kat pc tak guna onboard...sebab ada lag masa proses sound....


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post Apr 27 2008, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(pakau @ Apr 27 2008, 02:22 PM) *
bkn pasal dutch.tp ada krisis2 dgn creative ni.pnjg gak cita pasal creative.tp paling kritikal,berkaitan dgn driver vista.kalau ko aktif baca kt forum2 international ko tau ar.aku pakai sound card creative gk,da lama beli.tp kalau nk beli baru,mmg xbeli brand creative dah la.da bnyk pilihan skang kt malaysia, asus,auzentech,audiotrak dll.

BoycottCreative

susah nx cakap...dulu aku pakai mobo nya built in sound ...sambung ngan amp dan home theater,...tapi bila aku tukar xtreme gamer ni.....bunyi memang teramat2 puas hati.power yg keluar memang boleh stim.ekekeke

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QUOTE(phenom @ Apr 27 2008, 02:12 PM) *
betul tu...lagi satu...dia tx akan pakai banyak memori.sama gak cam gc.

yup btul..sbb sound card dah ade memori (ram) dier sendiri..mcam GC jugak..so kalo ko pakai onboard, dier akan gunakan memori dari ram ko dgn byk nyer..tapi kalo ko pakai SC, dier guna memori sendiri...so komputer ko takde la "lembap"..

**"lembap" tu ko takkan perasan pun sebenarnyer..hehe.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(phenom @ Apr 27 2008, 02:27 PM) *
susah nx cakap...dulu aku pakai mobo nya built in sound ...sambung ngan amp dan home theater,...tapi bila aku tukar xtreme gamer ni.....bunyi memang teramat2 puas hati.power yg keluar memang boleh stim.ekekeke

aku akn bangkang jika sesaper kata built in sound lagi best dari external sound kad.
dengarnya built in card skang dah run 24bit...tapi kenapa external sound card yg run 24bit lagi best dan power?

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Terpaksa guna sound card sebab onboard sound meletus akibat petir baru2 nie..maknanya tak la sehebat guruh hehe..Baru je pasang tadi,tapi aku rasa sound card lagi ok la bunyinye berbanding onboard..dapat bezakan kepadatan bunyi yang keluar dari woofer..Pakage software dia pun menarik.Jenama takyah cakap la korang pun tau dah soundcard apa yang popular.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pakau @ Apr 27 2008, 02:22 PM) *
bkn pasal dutch.tp ada krisis2 dgn creative ni.pnjg gak cita pasal creative.tp paling kritikal,berkaitan dgn driver vista.kalau ko aktif baca kt forum2 international ko tau ar.aku pakai sound card creative gk,da lama beli.tp kalau nk beli baru,mmg xbeli brand creative dah la.da bnyk pilihan skang kt malaysia, asus,auzentech,audiotrak dll.

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kalau boikot creative..jenama sound card lain ker...yg setanding dgn creative....?nk tgk gmbar or laman web skali....... laugh.gif
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bkn pasal dutch.tp ada krisis2 dgn creative ni.pnjg gak cita pasal creative.tp paling kritikal,berkaitan dgn driver vista.kalau ko aktif baca kt forum2 international ko tau ar.aku pakai sound card creative gk,da lama beli.tp kalau nk beli baru,mmg xbeli brand creative dah la.da bnyk pilihan skang kt malaysia, asus,auzentech,audiotrak dll.

BoycottCreative

Aku setuju pasal ni...memang aku dapat rasakan ada perbezaan antara under XP dengan Vista under xp more better in term of sound qulity and performance........untuk kerja-kerja audio..aku guna XP under vista aku just gunakan onboard...

BTW kalau nak pci card selain dari creative labs boleh cari jenama m-audio.. jenama ni consider highend punya soundcard... for professional music recording... and audiotrak for general purpose soundcard

aku punya cadang nak sambar soundcard dari brand ni....

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QUOTE(tasek16 @ May 1 2008, 01:35 AM) *
Aku setuju pasal ni...memang aku dapat rasakan ada perbezaan antara under XP dengan Vista under xp more better in term of sound qulity and performance........untuk kerja-kerja audio..aku guna XP under vista aku just gunakan onboard...

BTW kalau nak pci card selain dari creative labs boleh cari jenama m-audio.. jenama ni consider highend punya soundcard... dari range hardcore gamers to professional music recording...

aku punya cadang nak sambar soundcard dari brand ni....

pastu ada forumer kt creative forum betulkn driver creative utk vista. Daniel_k org nya. watkn driver utk creative secara pcuma. dia lak kena marah dgn creative. m-audio ada penah dengar gk. tp pilihan utk hi end mmg bnyk skang. asus da start kuarkn sound card hi-end, da lama gak.
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post May 2 2008, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(pakau @ May 1 2008, 01:50 AM) *
pastu ada forumer kt creative forum betulkn driver creative utk vista. Daniel_k org nya. watkn driver utk creative secara pcuma. dia lak kena marah dgn creative. m-audio ada penah dengar gk. tp pilihan utk hi end mmg bnyk skang. asus da start kuarkn sound card hi-end, da lama gak.
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untuk Gaming...ok ker?blh lawan Xi-Fi punye eh? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mon678 @ May 2 2008, 10:44 AM) *
untuk Gaming...ok ker?blh lawan Xi-Fi punye eh? laugh.gif

bkn setakat bleh lawan,nak kalahkn x-fi pun bleh.xkemana x-fi tuh.


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QUOTE(pakau @ May 2 2008, 11:10 AM) *
bkn setakat bleh lawan,nak kalahkn x-fi pun bleh.xkemana x-fi tuh.

smua sound card yg kau ckp tue..ade jual kat LOWYATT ker?kat kedai maner eh?
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QUOTE(mon678 @ May 2 2008, 11:17 AM) *
smua sound card yg kau ckp tue..ade jual kat LOWYATT ker?kat kedai maner eh?

xsemua ada kt kedai.bleh dpt drpd forum lowyat.