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Jeopardice
post Jun 12 2004, 12:52 AM
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alo sumer..........

dah lamer aku teringin nak tanyer soklan nie tapi taktau ler pesal aku shame2 kucing shket laugh.gif

aku tengok kowang banyak citer/discuss pasal overclock..........

aku nak tanyer..........camner nak overclock pentium4 ngan
display card???????????

kena guner program ato kena bukak casing cpu pastu "godeh" menatang tu??????????

p/s : kalo ley detail kan ler sedetail mungkin........newcomers ler katakan wink.gif

thank q anyway!!!!peace bro!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 12 2004, 12:58 AM
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org kato la kan, P4 ni sonang nk oc. xdo main voltage trick dan sbg eh.

sobolum oc ni, pasti an kolongkapan eh cukup. specially heatsink dan kipeh processor. bilo oc, seluruh sistem overheat. so kono la ready supayo sistem x hanguih...

naik an FSB. polan2 buek. naik ckit. jgn nk copek tinggi jo.
pastu test stability eh plak. guno an pakcik prime95.
pastu, ko tanyo la pulak sesapo otai oc P4. hahaha, sori. aku guno AMD.

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post Jun 12 2004, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE
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Posted on Jun 12 2004, 01:06 AM sobolum oc ni, pasti an kolongkapan eh cukup. specially heatsink dan kipeh processor. bilo oc, seluruh sistem overheat. so kono la ready supayo sistem x hanguih...

naik an FSB. polan2 buek. naik ckit. jgn nk copek tinggi jo.
pastu test stability eh plak. guno an pakcik prime95.


aku x paham sgt aper yg ngko cakap.... unsure.gif

aku cumer paham bab2 overheat tu.........

masok jerk kat fsb...........lingkop udah.........

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post Jun 12 2004, 01:54 AM
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aik intel la paling senang nak oc....
ko up kan je fsb, sebab nak upkan multiplier, intel punye lock...
ko main je fsb tu, pastu run prime, klu tak stable, up kan vcore lak

ni mmg nak kena wat tutorial la pasal oc ni....
ade lagi yg tak berapa paham
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post Jun 12 2004, 10:48 AM
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yo yo..sonang oc sonang mampus..kohkhokh...klo burn naya ar.. beli memahal... nasihat aku cpu intel nih klo x support HyperThreading x yah la gatal tgn nk o/c...

klo nk oc grafik card tuh okayla..kena pakai s/ware..klo nvidia kena pakai riva tuner..klo ati kena pakai ati tools..

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post Jun 12 2004, 11:35 AM
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klo nk oc grafik card tuh okayla..kena pakai s/ware..klo nvidia kena pakai riva tuner..klo ati kena pakai ati tools..


huhu.............memang cambesh..........aku oc gc aku pakai software kat atas tu ader ler umphh shket..............

gambo cun tapi kenkadang tengah syok layan dier kuar kat desktop.............

pesal huh??.............aku pakai function "auto overclocking"...... unsure.gif
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post Jun 12 2004, 12:34 PM
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huh........giler ahh.....lepas o/c gc aku suhu cpu tros naik 70C!!!!!!!!!!!...................

melecur tgn aku lepas pegang casing cpu aku........ huh.gif
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post Jun 12 2004, 01:50 PM
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temp kene jaga time ocing...tu paling penting...sebelum mula nak berjinak oc...silalah buat pertimbangan untuk dapatkan heatsink yg baik sket


oc graphic card test pakai artifact tester...


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post Jun 12 2004, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (Jeopardice @ Jun 12 2004, 11:43 AM)
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klo nk oc grafik card tuh okayla..kena pakai s/ware..klo nvidia kena pakai riva tuner..klo ati kena pakai ati tools..


huhu.............memang cambesh..........aku oc gc aku pakai software kat atas tu ader ler umphh shket..............

gambo cun tapi kenkadang tengah syok layan dier kuar kat desktop.............

pesal huh??.............aku pakai function "auto overclocking"...... unsure.gif

o/c gc pon kena titikberatkan heat..
belilah vantec iceberg pro utk jaga heat gc tuh..ko pakai nvidia kan..?
nvidia mmg cepat panas...


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post Jun 12 2004, 03:15 PM
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kalo nak OC AMD mcm mana lak...aku pun nak pandai pasal OC nih...aku memang tak tahu apa˛ so plz la ajar kalo bole detail abis...
kalo nak OC nih kena masuk bios kan...erm nak tanya prime95 tuh setiap PC memang ada ker..or memang kena d/load baru ada?? apa function prime95 aku memang noob pasal benda nih but aku minat pasal benda˛ computer...so korang nak gelak ker pasal aku aku tak kisah janji korang ajar la...yek


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post Jun 12 2004, 03:55 PM
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o/c gc pon kena titikberatkan heat..
belilah vantec iceberg pro utk jaga heat gc tuh..ko pakai nvidia kan..?
nvidia mmg cepat panas...


aku pakai raddy oag ler.....................hehe

member aku sowang ader pakai nvidia.........nanti aku try kat dier nyer pc..........

kalu burn pon cpu dier xper.............bukan harta aku......hehe........jahat gak aku nie
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post Jun 12 2004, 03:56 PM
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o/c gc pon kena titikberatkan heat..
belilah vantec iceberg pro utk jaga heat gc tuh..ko pakai nvidia kan..?
nvidia mmg cepat panas...


aku pakai raddy oag ler.....................hehe

member aku sowang ader pakai nvidia.........nanti aku try kat dier nyer pc..........

kalu burn pon cpu dier xper.............bukan harta aku......hehe........jahat gak aku nie
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post Jun 12 2004, 09:17 PM
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for stable oc on gc ...........pakai atitool ............suruh cari max oc then biar benda tue cari selama setengah hari.......satu hari lagi bagus...............apply only on radeon card..............

additionall component for best oc ialah beli ramsink for ram gc and hs baru for core gc.............happy oc
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post Jun 12 2004, 09:45 PM
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erm.. rujukan dgn lebih lengkap ; http://tokeikedai.net.my/tokei7/index.php?...ewpage&pageid=2

huhuh.. kalau pc power.. tak pyh ler oc.. merosakkan aje.. kalau nak yg power.. tukar cpu.. kekadang beli peralatan oc.. ni melebihi harga cpu..

overclock graphic card... erm.. guna powerstrip..


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post Jun 12 2004, 10:27 PM
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aku dah baca thread yg alkaeda kasi tuh but yg AMD punya proc. dia tak ajar pun..dia tunjuk screenshot pastuh tunjuk dia punya speed makin naik tuh jek...erm nak tanya mcm mana tgk window yg mcm screenshot dlm tutorial tuh..kena d/load software ker?? ajar plzzz...


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post Jun 12 2004, 10:34 PM
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itu adalah screen shot.. dekat keyboard cari button 'Print Screen'
klik dan buka mspaint.. run > mspaint.. paste file tadi kat sana dengan ctrl + v.. boleh juga utk msword.. etc

ler HeaVen X.. baca le artikel tu.. nak oc bergantung kat bios.. ade bios configuration lain.. lain le nak setiing... okey~ smile.gif


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post Jun 12 2004, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (alkaeda @ Jun 12 2004, 09:53 PM)
erm.. rujukan dgn lebih lengkap ; http://tokeikedai.net.my/tokei7/index.php?...ewpage&pageid=2

huhuh.. kalau pc power.. tak pyh ler oc.. merosakkan aje.. kalau nak yg power.. tukar cpu.. kekadang beli peralatan oc.. ni melebihi harga cpu..

overclock graphic card... erm.. guna powerstrip..

tak semestinya beli brg utk o/c tu lebih drp beli cpu yg power teruss.cthnya

p4 2.4C (rm600).kebanyakkan cpu ni blh di o/c ker 3GHz.so kalau time tu cpu 3GHz dah lebih 1K kan??

ape yg perlu kat atas tu mobo yg bagus+ tukar HSF yg ok skit cam Jet 4(rm 1xx)



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post Jun 12 2004, 10:47 PM
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hehe iye.. ke.. tolong senaraikan mobo utk pentium 4 yg sesuai utk oc dan sistem cooling yang terbaik dan available... aku pun nak tau gak ni.. psu, ram, cpu, haddisk(ada kaitan ke?) and so on.. all parts are overclockable


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post Jun 12 2004, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (alkaeda @ Jun 12 2004, 10:42 PM)
itu adalah screen shot.. dekat keyboard cari button 'Print Screen'
klik dan buka mspaint.. run > mspaint.. paste file tadi kat sana dengan ctrl + v.. boleh juga utk msword.. etc

ler HeaVen X.. baca le artikel tu.. nak oc bergantung kat bios.. ade bios configuration lain.. lain le nak setiing... okey~ smile.gif

erm...yg screenshot Spec AMD tuh...mcm mana nak buat senarai mcm tuh...i mean mana nak tgk utk PC aku nih..nak gak tahu bape clock dia speed dia...

aku ada gak try sebelum nih...(tekan button yg ko ckp tuh la) n tadi pun dah try tak jadi benda pun...hehehhe...ntah sangap tul...
erm...but artikel tuh tunjuk yg FSB utk Pentium je...AMD cara lainkan takkan kena gi kat FSB gak??


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erm...yg screenshot Spec AMD tuh...mcm mana nak buat senarai mcm tuh...i mean mana nak tgk utk PC aku nih..nak gak tahu bape clock dia speed dia...


soalan baru ke tu???.. anyway ko boleh guna cpu-z, wcpuid

cpu-z - http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

wcpuid - http://www.webattack.com/get/wcpuid.shtml


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ooo...ok thanks... erm..bab nak print gambar mcm screenshot tuh still tak bole hehehe..ntah aku tekan kuat˛ pun takde benda...erm kalo tekan button print screen tuh akan kuar window utk kasik tahu nak save ke tak nak pic tuh or memang tekan mcm tuh pastuh baru tekan mspaint??


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aku tak bace link tu.tapi rase2nya die dah bagi tau

speed cpu = FSB (Front Side BUS) x Multiplier


cth ;

p4 pakai system quad.so nilai bus 800MHz pada cpu type C ngan E tu dibahagi 4 dapatla nilai FSB

2800MHz = (800/4) x multiplier
multi = 2800/200
= 14

nilai multiplier 14 ni tetap.takleh nak ubah2.ni la yg dipanggil multiplier LOCKED.pada semua intel cpu kecuali yg ade ES @ engineering sample dan pada cpu amd keluaran ahkir tahun 2003

utk amd, mereka menggunakan sistem double.so nilai BUS dibahagi 2 = nilai FSB.cthnya

barton 2500+

1826MHz = (333/2)nilai FSB x multiplier
= 1826 / 166
multi = 11

cpu amd keluaran sblm tahun 2004 nilai multuplier UNLOCK.blh diubah2.so bile nak o/c.nilai FSB dan multiplier blh diubah mengikut kesesuaian

cth utk o/cing;

speed dikehendaki 3000MHz

speed asal 2800MHz

speed cpu = FSB (Front Side BUS) x Multiplier
3000 = FSB x 14(tetap utk p4 2.8C dan 2.8E)
3000 / 14 = 214MHz

drp pengiraan tersebut nilai FSB yg diperlukan utk o/c p4 2.8 ke 3.0GHz ialah 214MHz

utk amd yg unlock

speed o/c 2.3GHz drp 1.8 Barton 2500+

speed cpu = FSB (Front Side BUS) x Multiplier

utk mendapatkan nilai 2300MHz ade beberapa kombinasi FSB x multiplier.cthnya

1. FSB 230MHz x multiplier 10
2. FSB 166MHz x multiplier 14
3. FSB 200MHz x multiplier 11.5
4 etc

drp cth tersebut rasenya dah cukup jelas kenapa harga cpu 2nd amd UNLOCK lebih mahal drp cpu LOCK yg baru







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